You are here: Home / Full Episodes / Transcripts / 2019 / Transcript for August 10, 2019

Oklahoma Gardening

Transcript for August 10, 2019

Oklahoma Gardening


Today on Oklahoma Gardening, host Casey

Hentges is in the Oklahoma Proven Garden to look at

the beautiful Pintus.

OSU campus horticulturalist John

Stevens joins Casey to show how to create a barn


We create a quilt planting in our concept garden.

We find out what is troubling our pear trees,

and Barbara Brown has a great new kitchen gadget

for making juices and jellies.


(upbeat music)

If you're looking to attract the butterflies,

there's no better annuals to add in my opinion than

the Pentas.

Pentas come in a range of colors from pink to whites

to a rose color.

And some purples as well.

Now, this is and annual, but you can see how nice

of a shrub it gets, it gets about 16 inches tall

and about 12 inches wide.

What makes this even better for Oklahoma, is

once that heat cranks up, it will tolerate it really

well and in fact, it actually handles drier

conditions as well.

The Grafitti series is a new and improved series

that you might look for specifically.

Now, you can dead-head these to encourage it to

bloom all season but it's not necessary.

But, the butterflies are just going to be all over

this plant.

It's a great Oklahoma proven annual.


(upbeat music)

Today we're joined once again by John Stevens, who

is the horticulturalist at OSU's Landscape Services.

I approached him a couple months ago about designing

a barn quilt for our garden shed.

Barn quilts are becoming quite popular these days,

John you just happen to be the guy that kind of knows

how to make these for me, right?

And I have to tell you, it has turned out absolutely


I approached you a couple months ago about a design

and you told me, "No, that's too complicated."

So, we settled on this design.

What is it about this design, John, that was a

little more pleasing or acceptable versus the

other one?

>>> Casey, this is a nine patch pattern that has

half square triangles and squares and it's on point

here and all the points just radiate off that

center point.

So, it was a lot easier to manage than the one that

you showed me.

>>> A few more straight lines in it.

>>> Yes, a few more straight lines.

If you want to get that complicated with your barn

quilt, you can.

A lot of people like to use appliqué like and

animal print, could be a windmill.

It just depends on the person building it, how

creative they are, how much they want to invest

in time and working on this.

>>> And how experienced that are.

Now, you've made a couple of these.

I kind of came to you knowing that you'd built a

few barn quilts.

>>> Yes.

>>> But this is one of your more intricate patterns

>>> It is.

This is one of the more intricate ones.

For a beginner, I definitely recommend just

sticking to the basic, just half square triangles

and squares and going from there.

>>> Ok.

So, the colors we chose were kind of based off

some of the colors we had seen.

But, a lot of times you can get inspirations in

different areas, your garden, your shed, you


There's a lot of aspects to look at.

>>> Sure.

>>> So, what do we have to think about with the

proportions, I know you came out and measured our


And what are the measurements again on


>>> This is 30 inches by 30 inches.

And we chose these dimensions because it just

looked proportionate to our shed.

A lot of people, they may have a big barn that has

been in the family for years and it would be a

full sheet of plywood that you're using.

>>> Right.

>>> Like I said, it depends on how creative you want to

be and how much you want invest into it.

>>> Okay.

So, we wanted this to be low maintenance, we wanted

to be able to hang it up and leave it throughout

the season.

So, there's a couple things we had to think

about that in the process.

>>> Yes, definitely.

In Oklahoma, we have all kinds of weather and we

have to deal with wind, it's in our state song.

And we have the heat, intense summers that are

just constantly beating on the quilt itself.

We will need to talk

about the materials that we get.

>>> [Casey] So John, what are some of the first things

we need to consider?

>>> Well Casey, after we have settled on our pattern.

>>> [Casey] Um-hmm.

>>> [John] I recommend getting some graph paper

and drawing the, your design out on the graph paper.

>>> [Casey] Uh-huh.

>>> [John] 'Cause if you can draw it on the paper,

then you can transfer it onto the wood,

and you don't want to make mistakes on your wood,

once you have it all laid out.

You want to have a good idea what you're getting into

with your angles, when you get--

>>> [Casey] So you've got

your scale kind of drawn out on here.

>>> [John] Um-hmm, um-hmm.

>>> [Casey] Okay, all right.

>>> And...

>>> So what kind of wood are we using, I mean,

is this just regular plywood or, it's thick.

>>> [John] Well, that was by design.

First off, this plywood is actually form plywood.

It's like what construction workers use

for pouring cement forms.

It has, what's different about it is,

it has a smoother edge, it's square.

>>> [Casey] So you didn't sand this or anything?

>>> [John] No, no, we didn't.

>>> [Casey] Okay, 'cause it is really smooth.

>>> Yeah, it comes just like this,

you'll be happy with it when you get it.

Our application that we're doing today is

actually two pieces of plywood put together,

and that was just our preference, you know.

>>> Just give it a little more bulk.

>>> Yeah, if I had a quilt, I'd want a nice,

thick quilt, too, so why not my barn wanting one, too.

>>> [Casey] Okay.

>>> [John] So we chose that.

>>> [Casey] So John, if this is double-ply,

how did you actually attach those two pieces together?

'Cause I'm not seeing any screw holes

or anything like that.

>>> [John] Sure, well on the backside,

we, first off, we put glue, carpenter's glue, all over it,

and then put the two pieces together

by having screws spaced out about six inches apart,

all the way across the back of the board.

>>> [Casey] Okay, okay.

So the screws are on the backside.

>>> [John] Um-hmm, so you won't see them.

>>> [Casey] They're not seen.

>>> [John] Um-hmm.

>>> [Casey] And you don't have any texture problems

or anything like that.

>>> [John] Um-hmm.

>>> [Casey] Okay, excellent.

So the next thing we're gonna do is start drawing

our design on it?

>>> [John] Yes, you want to draw,

you want to draw your design out first,

onto the, with pencil, onto the plywood first.

And I would recommend using a metal ruler,

straight edge of some kind.

I like the metal ones is because they don't,

you'll have a truer line.

>>> [Casey] Yeah, and a long one, too, right?

>>> [John] A long one, it needs to be a long one.

>>> [Casey] You don't have to move it.

>>> [John] Yes, or you can use a T-square.

>>> [Casey] Okay.

>>> [John] Just whatever you have lying around.

>>> [Casey] Okay, okay.

>>> [John] And once you have the design, pattern,

all drawn out.

>>> [Casey] Um-hmm.

>>> [John] You want to then take

your masking tape and start sectioning off the pieces.

>>> [Casey] Okay.

>>> [John] The triangles.

>>> [Casey] All right, all right.

So you do that based off of which color

you're gonna paint first?

>>> [John] Yes.

>>> [Casey] Or, you only start with one color?

Is that what you're trying to do?

>>> [John] I recommend starting with one color

and just have patience.

>>> [Casey] Okay.

>>> [John] The more colors you have,

the more patience you're going to need

because you'll want to paint each triangle, each section,

and let it thoroughly dry, and then

you may have to come back

and reapply another coat down the road.

>>> [Casey] Okay. In case you pull that tape

and it kinda-- (laughs)

>>> [John] In case, yeah, in case you have some streaks.

>>> [Casey] Okay.

>>> [John] Which it happens.

>>> Excellent.

So John, after we've used the exterior paint,

we've got it all laid out and painted,

is there any sort of covering we need to put on

to protect that paint, or, I mean,

a gloss or anything else, for that coat?

>>> For the, for the final, final finished product

that we need to do, you want to put a clear coat.

>>> Okay.

>>> [John] And that, too, can be a gloss or a matte,

just whatever your preference is.

>>> [Casey] So that just kind of seals it then?

>>> [John] It seals it, yes.

And just one more layer of protection.

You already have your exterior paint,

that's made for outside, but if you put the clear coat on,

it will just be one more layer of protection.

>>> Okay, and I know as we've talked through this,

it sounds pretty straight-forward and simple,

but obviously, I would imagine the more colors

and it takes a while to draw out your design.

>>> [John] It does.

The one I built for you took two weeks.

>>> [Casey] Okay.

>>> [John] To go from start to finish, and--

>>> [Casey] Okay.

>>> [John] And, it's a lot of patience.

>>> [Casey] So the more colors you have,

the more you have to wait between drying.

>>> [John] Yes.

>>> [Casey] And that sort of stuff as well.

>>> [John] Um-hmm.

>>> [Casey] Okay, so two weeks for that design.

And so now, we're at the point that we can hang it.

How are we gonna go about hanging that?

>>> [John] Well, we're gonna put a blanket

on the table.

>>> [Casey] Um-huh.

>>> [John] So we can flip it.

We don't want to damage our pattern.

And then we are going to put the hardware

on the back of the quilt.

>>> Okay, all right.

Alright, John, so I want orange on top.


So we need to mount it, I guess, up here?

>>> We do, we need to flip it over.

>>> On the back side?


>>> And we decided that we're going

to mount our barn quilt where it's like a diamond shape.

So, we're gonna stick it in the corner.

>>> In the corner, yeah, okay.

>>> Um-hmm.

And so we chose these, we're using a clamp bracket

to mount it, because of like I said, the Oklahoma wind.

>>> [Casey] Right.

>>> [John] You want, it also helps with people with theft.

You don't someone to just come up

and grab your barn quilt.

>>> [Casey] Okay. (laughs)

>>> [John] At least make it challenging for them.

>>> [Casey] Yeah.

>>> [John] So we're gonna mount this in the corner.

You want to check to make sure that it's hidden

behind the quilt, you don't want this silver stuff exposed.

>>> [Casey] Okay.

>>> [John] So we're gonna mount it right here.

And our shed is ready for a quilt.

>>> [Casey] John, it looks fantastic.

I have to say, it takes on a whole different look,

being up on the barn.

Tell me a little bit about

how you secured it up there for us.

>>> Okay so we got to this point right here,

you want to make sure that you're attaching

your hardware to a stud and not just

thin sheets of plywood or siding.

>>> [Female] Yeah and our stud wasn't lined up right there

so you went in-

>>> [John] Yeah, we added a 2x4 and just connected it to

the two studs that were in the walls already

>>> [Female] All right.

>>> [John] And then just measure twice,

so we're only drilling one hole

in the side of the building

>>> [Female] Right. right

>>> [John] And then when we did that,

we didn't do it on this application

because we don't think there'll be that much

wind movement in here,

but if you're out in the open

you want to maybe put a small tack nail

at the bottom of the quilt to keep it from swaying.

It would be a really strong Oklahoma wind

that would do that.

>>> [Female] But we're kind of protected

here amongst the trees and everything.

So what did you attach to the barn then,

in order for us to hook onto the barn?

>>> [John] It was just a U-Hook

that we just got at the hardware store.

>>> [Female] Okay so just another U-Hook

that you attached to the barn,

and then we're able to clip the barn quilt on there?

>>> [John] Yup.

>>> [Female] Excellent. Well it looks it fabulous John,

you did great work and I definitely think it has

added another level to our garden shed.

>>> [John] Well thank you

>>> [Female] Thank you so much

>>> [John] Thank you for having me

(upbeat folk music)


>>> Well adding a barn quilt is one way

to decorate your garden shed,

there's another way to add those geometric shapes

into your garden and that's by building a quilt garden

as we've done here.

You're first gonna look for a flat

or maybe a slightly sloped full sun location.

Full sun is best to take advantage of all the

spectrum annuals that you could use to add color

into your quilt garden.

After you've identified a location

that you have space to create a quilt garden,

you're gonna start looking for that quilt pattern

that you want to replicate.

We've made our quilt block a 10x10 foot plot

just to help make the math a little bit easier.

Yes, just like quilting there is a little bit of measuring

involved, but unlike quilting,

we're talking about plants here, so it's not going

to be quite as precise.

For this particular pattern we actually only needed

three different colors, or three different

types of plants to use.

Which allowed us to have a more simple layout,

because it can get pretty complicated.

The other thing is if it's too complicated

and depending on the overall size of your quilt garden

it can start to look a little messy

and it may just look more like an annual mixed bed

than it does a quilt pattern.

For our design we used a Double Pinwheel quilt pattern

or also known as a Turnstile.

What I like best about this pattern

is it's really about finding the center of your measurements

and dividing it in half.

We began buy using the 3-4-5 method

to create a 10x10 square.

Using several stakes and some string

we divided that square into 4 quarters.

Then we split those quarters into half

by pulling our string diagonally across the square

in both directions.

Finally we drew the string across the quarters,

again diagonally from the center stakes on each side.

Now on that last diagonal line

we have to remember we are only going to pay attention

to the line that is going through every other triangle.

At this point you can see how even a simple pattern

can start to look complicated

and it's a bit of a tripping hazard to try

to get in there and plant with all these strings

going different directions.

So to make it easier, using the lines,

we marked with landscape paint

the pattern on the ground.

Once you have the pattern marked

and you're happy with the layout

it's time to remove the stakes and string

and begin to plant.

For our quilt we're using three different annuals;

Cherry Red Angelonia, will be the four large triangles,

and the other four triangles will be divided into half

with Helene Vin Stein's Lamb's Ear,

and Bumble Blue Ageratum.

For ease of planting we want to work from the center out,

so we started with the Lamb's Ear,

next we planted the Angelonia,

and then finished with the Ageratum

that was easier to reach from the perimeter.

Like all good quilts need a finished border,

we added some metal edging to ours

and applied a little mulch to complete the look.

If you're looking for a fun new way to add

some color into your garden,

or perhaps a signature piece that combines

two of your hobbies, try planting a quilt garden.

(upbeat folk music)


>>> If you look at this pear tree from a distance

you might not notice that it has any major problems.

But when we get a little bit closer,

we can start to see that some of the leaves and fruits

have unusual blemishes and structures.

This disease on this ornamental pear is a rust disease

and I don't know exactly which rust it is.

There's about four possibilities.

It could be cedar hawthorn rust, cedar apple rust,

Asian pear rust, or cedar quince rust.

It's really hard to distinguish them on this broadleaf host.

So what is this rust disease and is it a problem?

What it is back in March or April there were spores

that blew onto these leaves and fruits

and started these little infections.

And probably didn't notice them.

Over time, they've gotten bigger and bigger

and by the time we reached the end of June into July,

it starts to become a lot more obvious

because this fungus is pretty much done

with what it's going to do on this tree.

And so it will start to produce these

on the underside of the leaf or on the surface of the fruits

sort of a little bump or pustule.

And then it's going to, from that little pustule,

that erupted area, you'll start to see

these little white projections or tubes.

And that is where the spores of this Gymnosporangium species

are going to tumble out and blow to a different plant.

So in order for this fungus to complete its life cycle,

it survives part of the time

on a plant in the Rosacea family, in this case the pear,

and part of its time on plants that are,

in Oklahoma it's usually junipers.

So Juniperus species like eastern red cedar.

And at that time, it'll make some kind

of orange structure or goo or swelling on those Juniperus

that are going to blow and infect the broadleaf host.

So it could be a pear, an apple, a quince.

So, if you don't like how this looks,

there's nothing you can do about it this year.

But next spring when this tree

or other plants in your landscape in the Rosacea family,

start to produce leaves and flowers,

that would be the time to apply

a preventative fungicide application.

And if we have a rainy spring, you may have to make two,

three applications of that fungicide about 10 days apart,

in order to prevent all these blemishes

from developing later in the summer.

So overall, I don't really think this disease

poses much of a threat for the health of this tree.

Yeah there's some blemishes on the leaves

but we don't see a lot of leaf drop

or die back or decline as a result.

It's mostly healthy.

And so it's just more if you find it visually unappealing.

Now, if you have an edible pear or an apple

and your fruits look like this,

they're not gonna look very appetizing.

And so for those edible fruits,

you may want to apply fungicides

to prevent this sort of damage

from happening to those fruits.

If you are worried about the disease on the juniper host,

again, it's not usually a major health threat,

it's more cosmetic.

There may be a couple of weeks

where your ornamental juniper doesn't look that pretty

because it has the orange, gooey substance.

And this would be the time

when you're seeing this fungus release spores,

to treat those Juniperus species.

So how do I know if it's releasing spores?

I can pluck off some of the leaves or fruits,

tap them on something white, a paper towel, a Kleenex,

and see if spores are coming out.

And that's the right time to make sure

that we're treating those conifer hosts,

if you're concerned about the blemishes there.

So for more information, we have a fact sheet

and also a pest alert that you can read more

about the life cycle of these unusual fungi.

(upbeat music)


>>> Research shows that canning

is still very popular for many people at home.

However, we're not seeing the kinds of canning done

that we saw many, many years ago

where it was meat and potatoes and vegetables

that were going in.

It's more apt to be jams, jellies, and pickles.

So if you're doing jams or particularly jellies,

one of the first things you're gonna

have to do is extract juice.

We have some traditional methods,

which you can see some of the tools behind me.

However, I'm gonna show you how

to use a steam juice extractor today,

which is a new piece of equipment.

It's not tremendously expensive.

It does take up a little bit of room

but it makes great juice.

So let's go ahead and get started.

This is a three-piece unit.

There's a base that you fill pretty well with water

and on top of that there's another level of pan.

Now this one has a hole in the bottom

so that the steam we're creating here

can come up through there.

And then there's one that's like a colander

that goes on next.

And we're gonna put a fruit or a vegetable in there

and the steam is gonna come up and cook that.

The juice is gonna come out, collect here,

come down the tube,

and it comes out perfectly clear and gorgeous.

So you don't have to use any of the cheesecloth

and those kinds of things, which can take a lot of time.

Cooking on this may take 30 minutes or more,

depending on what you're trying to juice.

But it's extremely efficient, extremely easy to do.

So we're just gonna stack these together.

And you notice there's a tube coming out here.

This is where the juice is going to come.

It's got a clamp on it so that the juice

is not gonna be coming out

until we're ready for that to happen.

Got the fruit ready.

Today I'm making a strawberry juice.

You could use most any kind of fruit.

Peaches are great, apples are great,

you can also mix different kinds of fruit.

Now these berries are soft

and so I don't need to do anything to them,

the same with grapes,

I don't need to do anything with those either,

other than rinse them off.

You don't have to take them off the stems,

you don't have to take the caps off.

With apples and harder fruits like pears

I'd probably cut them in half or quarters

but I don't have to peel,

I don't have to take the stem off, and I don't have to core.

So it saves a lot of steps early on in the beginning.

This is gonna go in here, see if we can get the fruit in.

I've already got it going on a fairly high heat down here,

in fact, it's on the highest heat I can get

because we just want the steam to come up and cook them.

I put the lid on.

Try not to peek into it very often

because we do need that steam in there

to do the cooking down.

It'll take, as I said, probably 25, 30 minutes

before we start seeing the juice come out the tube.

And then you can continue to cook them

after that to get more juice.

Now one of the things that you do wanna know, however,

is because we're gonna be cooking them

for a fairly long time, with strawberries,

which are very low pectin anyway,

or peaches or some other fruits

that tend not to have a lot of pectin,

the longer you cook them,

the more pectin you're going to lose,

it's going to break down.

So you're gonna wanna use a commercial pectin

when you make the juice this way.

And that's fairly common with most things,

with the exception of some things like sand plums

or other kind of plums and concord grapes,

pretty much you're gonna use a commercial pectin with them.

Once you get the juice

you can see how the juice is coming down the tube.

Put it over another vessel that you can capture it in.

It could be a bowl,

it doesn't have to be a measuring cup by any means.

But you want to transfer this into something

and it's easier if it's going downhill.

You may end up having to tip it a little bit,

but you can see all the juice we got

and I've done nothing to get this juice

other than put the berries in there

and let them cook down for about a half an hour.

So depending on what you're gonna do with this.

Now you can use this juice simply as a beverage

or you can can it or you can make jelly

right from it right away.

I'm gonna stop it at that point.

Now if you're going to can it or make jelly from it,

well particularly if you're going to can it,

you wanna make sure that you do it hot.

Because it's hot, if you put it into a jar right now,

it will seal that jar

but the jar will not be properly processed

so you're gonna have to put it into a boiling water canner.

The same way you would if you

were gonna keep your jelly on the shelf.

If you're gonna keep this juice on the shelf,

it's gotta go through a boiling water canner process

in order to make it safe to use and safe to store that way.

You can, however, store it in the refrigerator.

You could actually freeze it if you wanted to do that,

just leave more room on head space.

It's a great way to make juice,

it's a great way to make jelly,

and it gives you lots of options

for combining different flavors.

One of the things I like with strawberry

is to mix it with some rhubarb

and that makes a really good jelly later on.

I hope you'll give this a try, it's a steam juice extractor.

For Oklahoma Gardening, I'm Barbara Brown.

(upbeat music)


>>> [Announcer] There are lots of

great horticultural events this time of year.

Be sure and consider these activities

when you're making your plans for the weeks ahead.

(upbeat music)


Next week we will not be aired on the main OETA channel

to make room for August Fest Programming.

But you can find us on the OETA Okla channel

with a couple of our favorite episodes.

We encourage you to consider supporting OETA

during the fundraiser

and we hope you join us back here August 23

for more TV you'll grow to love.

(upbeat music)


To find out more information about show topics

as well as recipes, videos, articles, fact sheets,

and other resources, including a directory

of local extension offices,

be sure and visit our website,

And we always have great information,

answers to questions, photos, and gardening discussions

on your favorite social media as well.

Join in on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

You can find this entire show and other recent shows

as well as individual segments

on our Oklahoma Gardening YouTube channel.

And tune in to our OK Gardening Classics YouTube channel

to watch segments from previous hosts.

Oklahoma Gardening is produced

by the Oklahoma Cooperative Extension Service

as part of the Division of Agricultural Sciences

and Natural Resources at Oklahoma State University.

The Botanic Garden at OSU is home to our student gardens

and we encourage you to come visit

this beautiful still water jewel.

We would like to thank our generous underwriter,

the Oklahoma Department of Agriculture, Food, and Forestry.

Additional support is also provided by Pond Pro Shop,

Greenleaf Nursery, and the Garden Debut Plants,

the Oklahoma Horticultural Society,

and the Tulsa Garden Club.

(gentle music)